Hara mariessë meldonyar !
For my first post here I wanted something that could be useful and so I decided to share some work I have done after reading an article on elvish linguistic, ""Sindarin" is a Quenya Word : how the clan names make Elvish more confusing".
I gathered the informations below after reading this article but also checking a Telerin word list on Sindanoorie.net an another article on Tolkiendil (a french website) about the Vanyarin tongue, "À quoi ressemble le Vanyarin ? if you want to go and check out. Also, the words marked with ¹,²... are suppositions I made.
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(AN) AVAR
Quenya Noldorin : Avar
Quenya Vanyarin (Quendya) : Avar¹
Sindarin : Avar
Telerin (Falmarin) : Abar
(THE) AVARI
Quenya Noldorin : Avari
Quenya Vanyarin (Quendya) : Avarí²
Sindarin : Evair
Telerin (Falmarin) : Abari
PEOPLE OF THE AVARI
Quenya Noldorin : Avalië
Quenya Vanyarin (Quendya) : Avaleí or Avalí³
Sindarin : Avarrim
Telerin (Falmarin) : Abailië
AVARIN (SOMETHING OF THE AVARI)
Quenya Noldorin : Avarinwa
Quenya Vanyarin (Quendya) : Avarinwa⁴
Sindarin : Avarren
Telerin (Falmarin) : Abarinwa5
AVARIN TONGUE
Quenya Noldorin : Avarin
Quenya Vanyarin (Quendya) : Avarin6
Sindarin : Avarren7
Telerin (Falmarin) : Abarin
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Which clan should come next ?
Notes on some personal construction of words.
1. Quenya Vanyarin and Noldorin being close languages, I assumed that the word was the same as the Noldorin word.
2. The article "A quoi ressemble le Vanyarin ?" says that words ending in -r in Noldorin would end in -i in Vanyarin and that all others would end in -í.
3. The article "À quoi ressemble le Vanyarin ?" propose -ei or -í for nominative plural, compare with the form "Ñoldolí".
4. Quenya Vanyarin and Noldorin being close languages, I assumed that the word would be the same as the Noldorin word.
5. I made the Falmarin adjective nearly as if it was Noldorin but, again, this is questionable.
6. Quenya Vanyarin and Noldorin being close languages, I assumed that the word was the same as the Noldorin word.
7. As I couldn't find the Sindarin word for the Avarin tongue I supposed the word would be the same as the Sindarin adjective describing something of the Avari, "Avarren".
Comments (4)
Elvish languages :heart: I wish I could speak t
I am a university student of linguistics, so this is so enjoyable for me to read :)
As you know, Sindarin has more of an Old Norse and Welsh influence.
The Germanic/Old Norse influence in Sindarin is in these examples most noticeable in the plural form,where a vowel change occurs from the singular to the plural form (typical for Germanic languages)
Thanks you for your comment, I will certainly publish about another clan on my next post !
I don't study linguistic in University but by myself so I don't know very much about Germanic or Welsh words but, yes, I have read that Sindarin was inspired in these tongues :). I love learning about old languages and Celtic culture and also about Celtic mythology. Hints of all that can be found in the Lord Of The Rings and The Silmarillion, and that's why I find them so interesting to read !
Reply to: Léranierë
I am Norwegian and a pagan (of the old norse paganism, with Odin, Freja, Thor, Tyr and all those gods) and I can also confirm that Tolkien also used a lot of hints of Norse mythology in the books.
My mother tongue is Norwegian and I speak almost every Germanic lwnguage and speak a little bit of Welsh, but I don't speak Sindarin yet (I prefer Sindarin due to the Old Norse influences) (Quenya is more influenced by the "classic" languages like latin and greek) but because of my linguistic studies, I learned to compare european languages and to spot the influences.
Tolkien had a great skill to hint the influences of other cultures in there:
The elves have a obvious ancient celtic cultural influence (with the languages being mix of celtic and Old Norse).
-The kingdom of gondor having Medieval English culture and language influence.
-The kingdom of Rohan being a mix of old Anglo-Saxon culture and old Norse culture.
-The Dwarves, altho the culture is more norse (Norse mythology had a big presence of dwarves, who were craftsmen, smiths and miners) the language is very much influenced by Hebrew (Tolkien did this because both the Jews and the Dwarves were once exiled from their land)
-Haradrim is obviously inspired by Carthage and Hannibal who used elephants in war (this is reflected as the Mumakil in the Tolkien books)
-Khand is a mix of the Hunns and the Mongol hordes
-Rhun is a mix of eastern-Asian cultures (anciest chinese, Korean and Japanese)
alright done now haha