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Smash Ultimate is a huge discussion right now, and many debates, topics, and ideas have been floating around. A few ideas came up on my mind that I felt the need to discuss in a whole post. Many of these topics are something only Sakurai himself can answer.
While there are tons of things that supposedly disprove this and that or this isn't possible, many things that we think to be right have often been proven wrong. Ridley too big as Sakurai said in smash 4? He's not gonna be in smash. Now he's in Smash Switch. There's no telling what's actually true.
TLDR disclaimer: No idea about whatever happening in the next game is too stupid or unrealistic. There are endless possibilities and Sakurai can shatter expectations faster than we can make them.
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With that said and out of the way let's continue.
I'm going to be asking a lot of questions and numbering them, so you can post your thoughts and reasoning behind whatever you believe to be the answer. If you do not completely agree with an answer, you can state what you believe to be correct instead. Just pick the answer closest to your beliefs.
*Also TLDR is just to read the question and not the huge explanations below it.
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How Many is Too Many?
As we saw on the June 12th Direct, Sakurai said, "Don't except too many more newcomers"
Now I have a question to ask you:
1. Does that apply to DLC?
A. What he says about few newcomers applies to both the original and dlc roster.
B. What he says about few newcomers only applies to the original roster. That means he can add a ton of dlc characters.
C. There won't be character dlc most likely. They'll add a few more characters to the original roster and that'll be it. They might focus on adding extra modes for DLC instead.
D. The roster is finalized as of now. They will be focusing entirely on game modes. Game modes for DLC if any.
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Examples/Explanations ing Each Answer:
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A: Sakurai did not specify whether the few newcomers would apply to the regular roster or just dlc. Given that he has been overwhelmed by the Smash series but has been taking it easier this time around, it is safe to assume he won't want to work on it too much. He stated Smash 4 would be his last smash game and no matter how much he changes how he works to make it easier, his life is not dedicated to developing Smash 24/7.
With this information, we can safely assume that in fact, there will be few additions to the roster. Few additions can even mean adding a Subspace Emissary, new modes, and more features. This can even be a part of dlc, which means dlc doesn't have to focus entirely on new characters and stages. Similar to Octo Expansion, he could create a storyline like Subspace to get alt costumes for characters that could be separate from a smaller storyline in the original game.
Sakurai is probably not going to be working extra just to please smash fans, as many of his other popular creations also are in need of a sequel. Being that he's dedicated enough of the past few years to Smash, it may be time to move on after he is done. After all, he did create the ultimate smash game. There's no reason for him to add to an already huge roster. 60+ characters is already an amazing feat.
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Logically we can think about this. If he wants to make 5 more characters in smash, that would fulfill the not too many characters. Why in the world would Sakurai add on 10 more dlc characters in addition to the previously mentioned 5? He already stated there wouldn't be too many newcomers and in case you didn't know, DLC are still considered newcomers no matter how you slice it. I know we all want our perfect roster with every single character we want, but let's face it: we aren't getting that anytime in the near future. I'm sure he has a set number in his mind of regular roster and dlc to add in or at least how long he wants to work on adding in dlc.
new characters mean balancing. Part of the reason why smash 4 fell apart is because the balancing only help up for so long. As unfortunate as it is, he didn't give Bayonetta enough time to settle resulting in tons of complaints across the Smash community. He is going to have to balance as many characters as he adds. And that means until a few months after the final character is released, we won't know for sure how balanced the game is. when we said smash 4 is super balanced? Tons of Balance patches do not equal good balance with constant updates to the roster.
Like the invitational, Sakurai is working to please the every part of the Smash community which includes competitive. I'm almost confident Sakurai will not plan on leaving a character as good as Bayonetta or as underwhelming as Melee and Brawl bottom tiers. If he focuses too much on balancing Smash, that's hurting his time on working on new games like a potential Kid Icarus or Kirby game. That said, he won't be able to add as many characters as fans would like. That's why Sakurai will add just enough in both the regular cast and dlc to satisfy everyone and have enough balance.
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B. Obviously with the fact that DLC is almost a requirement for new games, Smash would not be an exception. Sakurai stated there would be very few newcomers, but that could imply only the original roster. Sakurai's new work schedule will allow him to make sure he isn't too stressed and get out dlc at his own pace. The only deadline Sakurai truly has at this point is December 7th, 2018. Then he has enough time to create DLC at his own pace while creating new games. Even if there is a ton of time in between DLC and the original game, people will still buy it out. Although it can allow some hype to die down from the original game, it also builds up hype for new additions to the game whether it be modes, characters, or stages.
There really are no limits for dlc contrary to the original roster. No deadline allows everything. He only will continue updating until he starts to see a majority of fans satisfied for the new game. Balance patches aren't a problem because he has an infinite amount of time to get them done. New Brawl Metaknight equivalent? Work on a nerf. Brawl Ganondorf equivalent? Buff him.
This is supposed to be the perfect smash game so why not constantly update it? We have time to get new smash dlc and a new Kid Icarus game. There's nothing saying too much for DLC, only the original roster. They are all technically newcomers, but can be separate at the same time.
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C. When Sakurai meant few newcomers, he meant it. Sakurai will add on a few characters to the original roster and that'll be it. It eases any leftover stress the smash series may give him, even if he's taking his time easier. Adding DLC modes, stages, features, mechanics, more options in general, and whatever else he has in store may be what he's planning.
Sakurai doesn't have to add in a ton of new characters to satisfy everyone, and he shouldn't. Less characters means less balancing which allows more time to focus on a new game in a series. This also allows him to expand upon a well thought out story mode and make sure no character gets that Sonic s in the final battle treatment in Brawl. With less focus on the roster, Sakurai can please every dedicated Smash community fan with the mechanics and modes. Everyone is satisfied.
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D. The roster is final. While some would find this very hard to believe, Sakurai's words didn't instill confidence in a ton of new characters dlc or not. If he focuses on the new modes instead of any new characters besides balancing Inklings and Ridley, he can make sure most people are satisfied with the game and he has time to work with a new game. This would also fit nicely saying that he took off a lot of stress. If he made a ton of veterans return, it would minimize his workload. Most characters only have to be revamped a little in order to function.
This way fans are satisfied because we have everyone and 2-3 new characters (depending on how you look at it.) He is relived from Smash and can put his focus elsewhere. I'm sure he loves Smash just as much as other games, and I think he wants to spend his time working on other games too.
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"Hey Spike what are your thoughts on Waluigi not being in smash as a playable character?"
I personally think it's a good thing because the Mario series has a ton of representation unless the character is completely unique and brings something new to the table, which Waluigi doesn't really do.
"Shut up no one asked for your opinion"
But you just...never mind.
"Then who would be your number 1 pick for smash from the Mario franchise?"
Probably King Boo or Geno. I don't know Geno too well, so I'm not sure what he could bring to the table, but a ghost would have an interesting move set personally.
"Laaaaame"
Oh.
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From the Same Series, or Different?
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2. Which characters have the biggest chance and from what series?
If a character from 1 series is picked to be apart of the roster (or dlc), how much of a chance does another character from that series have to be apart of the new roster, especially with a limited amount of newcomers? (This is assuming they can be added as either the original cast or dlc.)
A. High chance, especially if they are popular. If the series grows and Sakurai likes it enough he can add 2 newcomers to the game from that individual series. Games like Fire Emblem which grew massively due to the popularity of Awakening got a lot of representation. Sakurai liked the characters so he added 2 FE for original roster, 2 for dlc. Albeit unpopular for some people, fine with others. (As long as they didn't add more) There's no real penalty to this and some people would be more than open to it.
B. Same chance as any other character, as long as the character is popular and requested enough. Like a ballot winner type of popularity. We all have fan favorites. Only if the character is popular enough to get in. If one character is already planned and the next isn't, then popularity can force them in.
C. Lower chance. Less variety for newcomers if they add two or more characters from the same series. Sakurai has it planned to mix up the characters as much as possible. Limited newcomers = More variety needed. We saw this with Mariokart. The kooplings were added with Mariokart 8 out of 30 characters. Arguably the additions of characters from Mariokart 8 Deluxe varied the roster. Example: A big complaint from people was the addition of Corrin in smash. We already had Roy added as DLC plus Lucina and Robin as newcomers.
**This is assuming the roster will be big enough to get these characters.
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"Who do you want from the DK series to be in smash?"
Probably Dixie Kong as an echo fighter or Funky Kong. I feel that Funky Kong's surfboard could bring something new, but I don't expect him much because he's obviously not the most well designed for smash. The only way I could see him making it in is if they wanted to later DK games that he is rising in appearance. Of course he didn't re Mariokart 8 Deluxe's roster which makes me think he doesn't even have a chance at smash. Dixie Kong was an alt of Diddy's so she could definitely make it in as an echo fighter or simply as an Alph alt costume.
"*Yawn* Boooring. Who wants those characters in over DK Jr?"
(Everyone) oh uh...sure.
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3. If there is DLC, what type of content should it/will it focus on the most?
A. Characters + Alt costumes
B. Stages
C. New and/or improve Modes (Not including a story mode)
D. Add-on story mode
E. DLC will most likely not happen.
F. Something Unique, unseen to the smash series.
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A. Characters and Alt Costumes- Let's face it, everyone and their moms in the Smash community want new characters. With the idea of less newcomers than before, we should take advantage of as many as possible. It should be about playing as who you enjoy to play. Alt costumes would also be a nice choice, especially if they are like Alph. We can't always get full fledged echo fighters so an alt of the character, especially if they are exactly alike is the next best thing.
B. We need as many legal stages as possible. With a stage hazard toggle, we still might come across flaws which may prevent people from playing the stage in tournament, so we need to be prepared. While most DLC stages do come hand in hand with new DLC characters, let's assume that this time they can be separate. Most smash games struggled to have legal stages and Sakurai is working hard to make this game more suitable for all competitive players in addition to casual play. That said, would we have too many legal stages to the point where we need to create extra rules about the stages in competitive play?
C. We all wanted that 1 on 1 mode for fun where instead of going as the 5 characters that thrive in lag, we could just have fun Falcon dittos with random players. No seriousness required. We can have new online modes and offline modes as well as a lot of majority returning modes. The possibilities are endless. Smash Run Online, online tournament mode, improved stage builder, and maybe being able to play created stages online.
D. DLC will focus on one mode early, whether it be a new story like Octo Expansion, or adding to a story currently in the game, like a Subspace Emissary. This can ensure that newcomers get a chance in the new storyline and no last second Sonic vs. the endgame boss take place. This is also nice because we get to enjoy a whole storyline without (hopefully) flaws.
E. I sure hope you are wrong.
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F. Self explanatory, this is always a potential scenario. But what could this be? 🤔
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"Who do you think is the best character or will be the best character in Ultimate?"
Right now, it's too hard to tell. Some characters will probably get nerfed to the point of no return and some will be buffed to the point where they stand out as the best. Although it's safe to assume that if you weren't Bayo at the demo, your character will probably be buffed.
"Obviously Ridley looked broken so he is the best."
Looks can be deceiving.
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To Be Continued... from Brawl.
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4. If there is a story mode (like Subspace Emissary, how long would you expect the mode to be?
A. Longer than Subspace Emissary
B. The same size as Subspace Emissary
C. Shorter as the Subspace Emissary
D. Longer to start than Subspace and will continue to get DLC Add-ons to accommodate for new characters.
E. Same size as Subspace Originally, but will get DLC add ons.
F. Smaller than Subspace Emissary to start, but will grow with DLC.
G. There won't be a new Story mode.
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A-C: Self Explanatory I hope. If it's longer, would that mean Sakurai put more focus on the mode because it was so requested? If it's the same, did Sakurai try and create more to it? If it's shorter, is it because he was overwhelmed by smash and wanted to focus elsewhere or because he ran out of time?
D-F: How much will DLC have an impact on a potential story mode? This is a huge potential option. Look at Splatoon 2 Octo Expansion. You get some added storyline to a short story mode to satisfy the length.
G: We are all entitled to our own opinions. :(
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"Why was BotW Zelda not included, I wanted her in so badly. Who's idea was it to put in that weird version of her?"
I mean I like the new version. BotW Zelda just isn't the fighting type. Most she does is... (This section of the blog as been cut off because of spoilers even if the game is more than a year old.)
"Ew why do you have such weird opinions Spike?"
I wouldn't be me without them. ;)
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Trigonometry in the Next Smash
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5. What is Tan(x) equal to?
A. Sin(x)/Cos(x)
B. Cos(x)/Sin(x)
C. Math is a Sin(x)
D. I love math(x).
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Rapid Fire Fill in the Blank Questions
6. There will be ___ more characters in the next smash game. There will be ___ DLC characters.
7. The most interesting/important new mechanic in Smash Ultimate is ____________.
8. There will be ___ echo fighters in Smash Ultimate.
9. SASpIke is torturing me with these random questions in his blog because ________________.
10. Zero Suit Samus plus Bowser equals _____. (Hint: it's a number, not Nairo.)
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Thoughts Before I end this Part 1
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-As I am writing this blog, I thought hey, this is supposed to be the Ultimate smash game. If Sakurai is working to make sure every character returns, why not make sure every stage (This may have been already been proven as not happening. Not exactly sure because of potential confusion), mode, and everything else return too? (Obviously taking out exploits and stuff) Sakurai is taking everyone's favorites so everyone is satisfied. It's not entirely out of the realm of possibility as it takes a lot less work to redesign something already there rather than start from scratch.
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Semi-Closure
Im going to split this bto 2 parts since Amino seems to be a bit laggy. I'm not going to release part 2 right away, I'm just gonna spread the time between each post out. Might be a few days or something.
Credit to uwu 2 for the tpl idea. It's a work of art.
Also hecc the size of my blog is making my typing lag again.
As Chrom once said, "We're not done yet!"
20-8-1-14-11-19 6-15-18 18-5-1-4-9-14-7!
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Comments (57)
Marty in smash?
Who are you Bill Nye
Maybe 👁👁
I just want to know why there's a can of soda in the beginning.
Uhhh it was Matt's idea
I like how people are talking about dlc for Ultimate when it’s not even out yet
x = 5π/6 (in the picture)
tan= sin/cos
Jeez, trig sucks.
It does
Oh wait, we're talking about smash.
As far as DLC additions to the story mode, I wouldn't want to see it, but it would likely be necessary to accommodate the new DLC characters, if they happen. I'd love to see a story mode, but in the endgame it could potentially come out after DLC characters which would mean as DLC itself, most likely.
Or...
Perhaps there could be more of a side-story or expansion like you mentioned. I personally wouldn't mind that at all, but too much DLC and we end up like Train Simulator.