A tier list for Gen 3 was bound to happen if I kept going down the line and while I thought Gen 2 was a headscratcher of a tier list to make, this gen was even more tedious to place some units.
Keeping similar tier titles felt appropriate for this batch of heroes though I wouldn't be surprised if it's gone for the Gen 4 tier list. However I did change D tier's title for this particular set of units as everyone I had placed in it fell under the criteria.
Also I wasn't entirely sure if I should or shouldn't put Duo Ephriam in because while he was introduced in a new heroes banner, he didn't stay in the permanent pool or any kind of summoning pool for that matter. I figured including him felt fine but if you disagree just ignore him being there.
Like the other tier lists of this type, unit order has no significance and units are in order by game.
Like the previous Generation Tier list here are some personal doubts I had on some placements:
A: Forsyth and Tibarn down to B?
B: Valentian Catria, Fallen Tiki, Idunn, Igrene, and Caineghis I wasn't entirely confident where to put them. Considered most to A tier but placed them all in B out of lack of confidence.
Also Valbar and Perceval to C tier?
C: Gerik down? Out of all this gen's generic 5*s, I felt like he in particular would raise some eyebrows being in D tier.
I also considered Ranulf, Selkie, and Hilda for D tier but placed them C because they have pref that give them SOMETHING they'd try to do, even if their prefs are very extra in their requirements.
Overall this Generation I would say isn't as clear cut as the previous gens as no one in this tier list has a pref refine to their name. Not to mention alot of the prefs present seem rather experimental if you ask me, like a simpler time before IS tried giving every weapon 3 or 4 skills.
Here's the Link I put together if anyone wants to make their own tier list. And as per usual comment your thoughts below and if you have any tier list ideas feel free to comment them below.
Comments (18)
Kinda threw together a list since there were quite a few I disagreed with. This website is horrible on mobile so excuse the fact that I didn't include the descriptions for tiers B-S.
I could see a few disagreements of note worth discussing, but not ionate enough about them.
What Im most curious about is Dimitri and Hilda in B? Their weapons are pretty clunky and inconsistent if you ask me.
Brave Alm, Idunn, Nagi, and Lethe in C tier in lieu of B im pretty surprised by too.
Also Im a fan of the title you gave D tier, might steal that for the gen 4 tier list when i get around to that :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: .
Reply to: UltimatelyUnlucky
Hilda and Dimitri aren't that bad. 34 Def at max investment isn't that high to compete against if you want her capabilities. Most people won't be going that far so it'll only be 28-30. Beyond that just have her solo for her weapon's combat effect. Dimitri can maintain his effect in various way depending on how you build him. Savage blow, one-shotting, Fatal Smoke, Pulse Smoke, enemy being inflicted by guard, or stacking Atk + Def. Both of them are mostly that high since I couldn't fathom putting them in the same tier as someone like Ranulf, Selkie, or F!Berkut.
I need to know why Python is so high when he's just diet OG claude
Because he’s pretty common in AR if you ask me and unlike claude, he actually has bulk. Even though he’s a colored archer he can break the triangle against physical units. Also cunning bow is pretty bad.
Reply to: UltimatelyUnlucky
Python is so high because he's so good as a ranged melee cav. He's comparable to Sue in stats but easier availability makes Python or Rath much easier to justify using
Reply to: Hound+ :tm:
:clap: :clap: :clap:
Though I have to say, though I haven’t started preparing for it yet, Im entirely sure if ill also put rath in A or not. The main concern is that they sacrificed 8 points of defense for a little more res and hp. I know it shouldn’t be a deal breaker but as someone who uses python on a cav line i can say that his defense can be pretty darn good with the right build. Mine has survived and killed +10 Ninja Lyns and both altinas. Again not entirely sure if ill follow through on punishing rath for it. Partially wanted to rant about python a bit more lol.
Nagi? Bro she sucks red dragon slayers wreck her, armor slayers wreck her. She is dc fodder
Also if you end up moving Perceval to C, you gotta move sirius too. They're almost the same unit tbh
Reply to: Hound+ :tm:
My main doubt with Perceval came from my opinion that Sable Lance > Prized Lance. Not that prized lance and Perceval are bad, I just didn’t feel entirely comfortable on putting Perceval in B tier, which is why I mentioned the idea of him moving down.
Nagi is so high because she seems like an excellent anti-ranged unit. Sure she has her negative matchups but those are not who you play her into. It’s like sinning Fallen Lyon for dieing to any unit with able melee combat.
I feel, even though she is 5* locked, Silque outperforms Brady and Mercedes.
Bantu should be at the the bottom. He hasnt a notable niche as far as Im aware, especialy wth the Tikis runnjng around.
Did Chad age well? I personally cant think of a situation in which Sothe isnt better. He might have aged well in the respect that he wasnt good to begin with.
Kaden is still one of the better units in the game.
Larum is a worse Tethys (Worse availability, lack of prf, stats are similar to Tethys) and Tethys is significantly better for AR-D teams as a way around Mila iirc.
Bantu I wouldn’t say is D tier bad, unlike the units in D tier for this batch he can be easily merged and is 1 of 2 red dragons leaving little room for competition. And the gap between Bantu and Tiki I wouldn’t say is very prominent considering statewise Bantu is Tiki with more speed and hp and while breath of fog is decent we got a handful of great inheritable breaths recently and I wouldn’t say Tiki is exactly being praise for because of her dragon slaying abilities. So C tier seemed fine for Bantu if you ask me.
I had put Chad in B tier primarily because I had Kaze in B tier for the gen 2 tier list with no objection. And Chad is essentially just a more balanced bulk Kaze.
Kaden has to jump through the hoops of himself being visibly buffed to offer any form of . In strats where a unit is wanted, I don’t really see his appeal over Brave Lucina, MCorrin, or even Flayn and the Velouria’s.
Larum does indeed have worse availability than tethys, but having her in C tier I believe would’ve raised too many eyebrows when she essentially does everything tethys does. Meanwhile Tethys herself i feels lacks something standout to put her A tier. The main that comes to mind is a disarm trap dancer, but if you already have a peony/plumeria one may be less inclined to use her. And i dont Tethys her countering Mila in any way with her base 23 defense.
Norne definitely needs to go up
Reply to: UltimatelyUnlucky
Even with Young-Innes existing, Norne is still way better than all that characters in her tier, as well as all other demote bows in general.
The existence of Young-Innes doesn't make her a B tier all of a sudden
Reply to: Stormy (CEO of Anime)
She's more of a Kris simp I'd say